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BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4343 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Metacognitive Ordeal

Think of it in another way. Do you volunteer because it's the right thing to do (it's own end), or do you volunteer because it makes you happy (happiness being the end)? The debate comes because since volunteering will intrinsically make a person happy (a generalization, I know), it is said that a person can't volunteer for the sake of volunteering because it will always yield being happy.





tom  ·  4343 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thank you! That makes much more sense to me now.

Is there really a debate though? I mean, I've done a lot of dumb work in my life that I certainly didn't get any happiness out of (other than that of finally being able to do what I deem good). However, I did that work nonetheless. Or is the argument more like whenever you do something you are always doing it for at least a couple reasons, only one of which will be simply to do it?

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4343 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Or is the argument more like whenever you do something you are always doing it for at least a couple reasons, only one of which will be simply to do it?
This is where the debate lies. Many people say you can't do something for the sole reason of doing it, that there are always unintentional byproducts. Because these byproducts exist, the output is more than the input as opposed to input = output (volunteering = volunteering as opposed to volunteering = volunteering + happiness).
StephenBuckley  ·  4343 days ago  ·  link  ·  

BLOB_CASTLE nailed it. In case you have a lot of time and want to join in on the discussion/thought process, go nuts!

tom  ·  4343 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks very much for the read man!

StephenBuckley  ·  4343 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No problem!

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4343 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's some heavy reading you just posted there.

StephenBuckley  ·  4343 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh yeah. I love philosophy, but you gotta want to read it.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4343 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh definitely no doubt. However, I probably don't have time to fully ingest it over my bowl of cereal before work.

StephenBuckley  ·  4343 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No way! Just thought I'd leave it here in case anyone had time. No obligation!

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4343 days ago  ·  link  ·  

In return I give you some chill music.

StephenBuckley  ·  4343 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Dang. This is maybe the chillest of all music?

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4343 days ago  ·  link  ·  

For centuries it had been argued to be the chillest of all music.