It doesn't actually come down to that, though. Cup isn't saying that the intention of the founding fathers was to create a secular nation, he's saying that the rules they made were secular. It might seem like a slight difference, but it is significant.

The distinction isn't lost on me and it is far from insignificant. Mr. Cup has made some great points and has perhaps changed my thinking here. But I'll take a look at the topic with some fresh eyes tomorrow. Some great food for thought. I'll be dreaming of conversations with the founding fathers. I must say, I hope it looks like this