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ecib  ·  4341 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Graphic Design Criticism as a Spectator Sport

    I do think there's a lot of dislike of change for change's sake.

Yeah, I believe there are countless examples of storied logos that we are familiar with and have a strong emotional bias against seeing changed. I bet in the majority of those cases where the brand has been around for a while if you look back at the history of the logo you'd see obviously dated, grimace inducing designs that just make you frown a little inside when you see them as you go back in time. Your school's logo is a prime example. Looking at it dispassionately you can clearly see a progression backward where the logo becomes increasingly out of touch and dated, almost to the point of being comical going all the way back. But I bet at every single point of change along the way, too many people presently engaged with the brand felt that changing their logo was a bridge to far...even if the trend towards refreshing relevance in logo evolution was crystal clear to them up to that point.

I guess that's the whole point though to some extent. Brands want us to identify with them desperately. If we don't have some sort of emotional reaction to what we identify closely with changing on us, than the brand hasn't been as successful as it could have been up to that point. The holy grail for brands would be to have the reaction skew positive while they tuck the nostalgia away in their back pocket for use in some clever marketing years in the future.

I'm trying to think of the last time I was into a brand enough to notice the design/logo change, and really like it. I know there must be something but it isn't jumping out at me.

Also, I am only on page 6 of The Pepsi Gravitational Field and my jaw is in my lap. Given that the original comment says it gets better towards the end....I don't even know where to begin...as funny as it is, if this were my profession I think this document would just make me intensely angry. Luckily I'm not and it's easily the funniest thing I've read in a month. I mean, page 6 documenting the origin of intellectual property...where do you even go from there?





kleinbl00  ·  4341 days ago  ·  link  ·  

A friend of mine was at Avenue A/Razorfish when the Pepsi logo came through. She couldn't vouch for the authenticity of the document, but she said that she'd seen some of the images before in internal discussions.

It surprised none of my design friends. Work with architects or designers long enough and you will start seeing everything in terms of golden means.

ecib  ·  4340 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    She couldn't vouch for the authenticity of the document,

I'm having a hard time with it too. I totally get reverence for the golden ratio (an idea who's virtues I was skeptical about when I first learned about it in art class...at least to the degree with which it was praised) coming from the design crowd. That document just went so far beyond. If I had to put drinking money on it I'd say it wasn't real but hope my friends weren't thirsty.

kleinbl00  ·  4340 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We'll never know. For me the fact that the argument is around "could be fake" instead of "is obviously fake" is telling enough.