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That's the argument for "pubs" over "clubs." Having visited a couple good'n'proper English pubs as a kid, and having put myself through school mixing bands in clubs, there's no comparison. "Bars" as they existed through most of the 20th century are becoming rarer. http://www.thirdplacebooks.com There's a great scientific American article about sprawl and urban design, but I don't believe it's online.