Not even 9gaggers? Surely you must hate the 9gaggers.

song: Marijuana by Chrome Sparks

Kygo.

link? can't see an embedded vid... I'm using Chrome

Likewise! It's been a pleasure exploring this blurry line of ethics, upon which the snail balances :)

Not having a sense of dignity=/= not deserving of dignity. A demented and incontinent elderly human is certainly not dignified, but they are certainly deserving of dignity.

I don't mean to sound disheartened ;)

My point was that even if slavery cannot be proven to be objectively wrong, the only thing that matters for me is that I think it is wrong due to a belief that follows from my assertion that all sentient beings are deserving of dignity, and that slavery is by definition an indignity.

If circumstances were to change so that I no longer believed that every sentient being is deserving of dignity, my stance on slavery would follow suit... I don't see that happening anytime soon though.

Interesting turnaround of my logic. It certainly is hard to extricate one's thoughts from one's cultural vantage point.

Slavery isn't wrong; I think slavery is wrong.

Quoting Jeremy Bentham on the question of sentience: "The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?"

I'm not perfect by any means, but I've been about 95% vegan for 2 years now. Maybe I'm just stubborn, but once I made the connection between dairy, egg and meat products and suffering, I couldn't take part in that cycle any more.

Indeed. Why should agency be restricted to humans, when all large animals have the self-awareness, sentience, and survival instincts that predicate agency?

When a person enslaves another person, the enslaver ceases to be see the slave as a being that is worthy of respect; the slave becomes a commodity that happens to be alive.

I do not think it is perilous to make the assertion that the vast majority of sentient beings, human or otherwise, would prefer to be regarded as a fellow sentient being that is worthy of dignity instead of as a commodity to be exploited for profit. If we apply the golden rule to this situation, it would follow that enslaving another being would be a priori immoral, and that if it can be avoided, it should be.

was this for April Fools?

To the Five Eyes, the disruption of alternative currencies IS a lucrative heist

I started lurking here after that comment; I think the reddit users that are frustrated with reddit's inanity and will be good for hubski will gravitate here, while the r/funny types will stay where they're comfortable.

Been lurking ever since I was linked here during the bipolarbear incident. I like the content on this site a lot more than reddit so far