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syzo  ·  3959 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Reddit censors big story about government manipulation and disruption of the Internet

I'd just note that this is subreddit moderators censoring this story, not "reddit" itself. The moderators are not affiliated with reddit inc.

It's still unacceptable that they're doing this, though.





user-inactivated  ·  3959 days ago  ·  link  ·  

These subreddits are huge though, and are defaults.

Any default subreddit is going to have a lot more attention drawn to it and will have a lot more interaction between reddit the company and the individual moderators. It's not that reddit runs the subreddit, but I think it's inaccurate to say that they are "unaffiliated."

zerocool  ·  3959 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, but the Admins have the responsibility to keep free speech going on the site...

kleinbl00  ·  3959 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's so cute. The Admins don't have the responsibility to keep /r/PCMasterRace from attempting to murder an /r/gaming mod using cops. Free speech? roflcopter, yo.

havires  ·  3845 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    /r/PCMasterRace from attempting to murder an /r/gaming mod using cops.

What the hell?

kleinbl00  ·  3845 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    PCMR had been banned and I was still getting messages and phone calls. Obviously, I wasn't answering my phone, which is why when the police called and the phone number said "Unavailable", I didn't pick up. Then my wife called. I answered and she was asking if I was okay, because she had been called by the police. She gave me the phone number for a detective that was involved and I called him. (Later that night, I learned that my wife had Facebook divorced me so people wouldn't find her, lol) After a lengthy phone call he asked that I come down to the police station. I spent about an hour in an interrogation room, where I learned that not one, not two, but three cities' police departments, a SWAT team and a bomb squad were now evacuating people from the address that was posted on PCMR. A fourth city’s police department was engaged a bit later to visit an even older address they had on record for me.

    It's worth noting at this point that the address that was being handed out was wrong. It had been my address once, years ago. It is an apartment complex with roughly a hundred and seventy-five units and just under a hundred people were being evacuated from their homes due to the terroristic threats. Families were rushing their children out, fearing that death would arrive in the form of an explosive fireball.

    Had I still been living there, it's not hard to imagine a situation that may have ended in me being shot by a police officer.

    All because of photoshopped images of a private conversation.

    When I went home that night, I called my wife and told her not to come home but to go stay with her parents. I circled the block around my house and when I went inside, I went straight for the gun safe. I didn't sleep Monday night.
havires  ·  3845 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Wow I'm speechless.

kleinbl00  ·  3845 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And I don't mod /r/gaming.

havires  ·  3845 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Wow, they did all of that and only had the wrong person.

kleinbl00  ·  3845 days ago  ·  link  ·  
havires  ·  3845 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I remember the massive manhunt Reddit was doing, but I didn't know that this is how it ended up.

syzo  ·  3959 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Nope. They have no such responsibility. They take a very hands-off approach to moderation and delegate all moderation to the moderators of the subreddit (unless something is illegal and the mods aren't doing anything, of course).

If the users are fed up with the moderation of a subreddit, they can always make an alternate sub and carry on.

coffeesp00ns  ·  3959 days ago  ·  link  ·  

but.. but... muh freedum!

In all serious, I agree with your sentiment, and I think every time this comes up it gets more and more tired. I suppose it's good that we, as a society, still have people who complain about it so that we never get to the point where their complaint is valid.

OftenBen  ·  3959 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'd like to hear from the mods personally.

If someone's a shill, out them as a shill.

If they have a legitimate point to be made, give it it's day in open (internet) court.

Kafke  ·  3957 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You should've seen the shit that went down in /r/atheism. Spawned like 3 or 4 new subreddits for atheism. I imagine that if this keeps going the same way, there'll be new subreddits that pop up. that or everyone will move over to hubski :P

OftenBen  ·  3956 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    everyone will move over to hubski

Shudder.

thenewgreen  ·  3956 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think we're alright. Each time there is an influx (and this was a relatively small one) the prediction is that the floodgates will open. This never materializes. People often do not realize that we've been at this for nearly 3 years now. That said, if the floodgates did open my feed would still have you and the others I follow in it. I take comfort in that.

Kafke  ·  3956 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think a big part is that hubski is a drastically different site than Reddit. And many people that use reddit aren't looking for something like hubski. And that's part of the reason reddit has gone to shit lately.

I'm pretty sure hubski will be okay.

kikkeliskokkelis  ·  3959 days ago  ·  link  ·  

> The moderators are not affiliated with reddit inc.

I doubt Reddit's moderators are doing something that's against Reddit's wishes though, and I doubt there's a meaningful editorial distinction to be made between a "subreddit moderator" and a "Reddit moderator".

syzo  ·  3959 days ago  ·  link  ·  

"reddit" only has admins that work on the base code of the website; they aren't moderators. The subreddits only have moderators that can only moderate that specific subreddit.