Well, no. They're exchanging meaningless, made-up data for semi-meaningless, made-up statistics and a useless sorting method for a different useless sorting method. That's the tricky thing about made-up Internet points - if I tell you they're purple now instead of yellow, you can be pissed, but you can't argue that the purple points are somehow less genuine. Reddit has been fuzzing things well out of the range of any reasonability for more than three years now. What they're doing here is acknowledging it while also admitting that they can't meaningfully keep the "points" metric around without it being any more of a joke than it already is.
So much of reddit is on smaller subs where vote fuzzing never or minimally effected vote counts. Fuzzing was most obvious in major subreddits with thousand+ active users The Admins are right in saying that fuzzed counts were mostly illusionary, but subreddits like /r/photoshopbattles which based it's entire content selection on vote counts are now essentially broken. This is coupled with the fact that they didn't inform the dev. community at all, so pretty much every major reddit app is broken right now. Basically, it's not surprising that people are upset about this, it was hasty and poorly implemented, and this says nothing about whether it's a good idea or not, just that this reality is why you're seeing so much backlash.
Find a comment of yours in a small sub with four votes. Hit refresh repeatedly. In the space of seconds you'll see it dance to 6/1, 4/2, 5/0, then cycle back through with a little salting. This means one of two things: 1) There's someone in every sub hyperactively slamming upvote and downvote buttons 'cuz he can't make up his mind or 2) Vote fuzzing hits at less than ten, thereby rendering even the smallest subs subject to its whim. No, those who used those subreddits who weren't already aware of how broken they truly are have just awoken to the reality of the situation. Humor me. Click here. Check out that there trophy shelf or whatever they call it. Find the thing that looks like this: Ever seen one of those before? That's a badge for Reddit's first, last and only beta. It was in 2010. They've gone through two other search engines since then and beta-tested none of them. That team is so gone that not only are none of them still at Reddit, none of the people they hired are still at Reddit. I bring this up as a long-winded, argument-from-authority approach to saying "what else would you expect?" (1) no doubt. (2) no surprise there. (3) the argument is that "reddit is imploding in real time." I would say that's exactly the sort of vague sensationalism that caused many of us here to leave reddit. Is it fair to say that large swaths of the uneducated masses are currently experiencing rustled jimmies? Absolutely. "implode?" More like a zit popping.So much of reddit is on smaller subs where vote fuzzing never or minimally effected vote counts.
but subreddits like /r/photoshopbattles which based it's entire content selection on vote counts are now essentially broken.
This is coupled with the fact that they didn't inform the dev. community at all, so pretty much every major reddit app is broken right now.
Basically, it's not surprising that people are upset about this, it was hasty and poorly implemented, and this says nothing about whether it's a good idea or not, just that this reality is why you're seeing so much backlash.
I'm on the same boat. It isn't the imaginary numbers that matter at reddit, its the manner they went about a change that impacts the smaller subs. In a way I'm happy. It spurred me to explore new social aggregate alternatives, and so far I'm liking what I'm seeing.
And me, and others. I hope we get a good thing going here.
Hi Swedishbadger - there is a good thing going here already. We are often interesting, usually respectful, and sometimes even funny. If you are a girl, there are smart interesting females here. Sometimes men use the tag #grrlski to get a female perspective on an issue. There is no up or down voting here, only sharing. Let me know if you have any questions by personal message (pm).
If you click the circle on a post, it means you are sharing the post with your followers. Gradually, as you post and comment, you will gain followers - meaning your posts and comments will appear in their feed. This site depends on people finding or creating interesting items and sharing them. If you click the circle next to a comment, you are indicating that you
1) have probably read it
2) find it interesting and worthy of note Check the about and tutorial at the bottom of the page, and also #didyouknow and #newtohubski tags. Or just ask me.
That's brilliant, thanks! I was already following #newtohubski so I'll follow #didyouknow now too. And share your post.
Actually one more question, what usually makes you decide to share a post? Is it that you agreed with it, thought it was interesting, thought it added to the conversation, all of the above? I'm noticing that most of the posts I've shared are post with which I've found agreeable, but maybe that's not as beneficial. Still learning, thanks for sharing your experience, cheers :)
Sharing also adds to something in mk's magic mix causing dots to appear around your name or perhaps around the sharee's name. When you complete a full circle, you have more privileges. If you comment on it and want more people to notice your comment, perhaps people might add a share. I imagine sharing is someowhat idiosyncratic. Also worthy of note is that people do not just read what is in their feeds. They look for interesting comments in chatter and badges and unread, unshared one-starred bits in "global." Anyway, no rush. Hubski never sleeps..Actually one more question, what usually makes you decide to share a post? Is it that you agreed with it, thought it was interesting, thought it added to the conversation, all of the above?
Sometimes posts are shared ironically, sometimes even badged ironically.
Thank you, I found the tag and I really like the tag system and everything else so far.
Also, view your comment while logged in. Then open incognito and view it. Then log in to a different account and view it. I've refreshed 12 times logged in and got 120 up 30 down repeatedly only to log out and see 120 up and 90 down. Posts are far worse than comments.Find a comment of yours in a small sub with four votes. Hit refresh repeatedly. In the space of seconds you'll see it dance to 6/1, 4/2, 5/0, then cycle back through with a little salting.
>In the space of seconds you'll see it dance to 6/1, 4/2, 5/0, You can't. Not anymore at least, and it's something that bothers me about the change. You will never know if it was (5/0) or (1000/995). They don't even give percentages for votes. edit: whoops, still not used to hubski's formatting..
Maybe it'll only show after x amount of time. I fixed it almost immediately after posting