the only person you're really talking to is the person you're replying to, and whoever else may be reading.
Which is often quite a few people. Note the "chatter" link at the top of the page. People often look there to see recent conversations and join in. Others might click the "badge" link to see what some have felt badge-worthy -- although note: it might be ironically badged.
Maybe it's just that I've been around for a little bit, but I've seen what seems like an increase in it and I'm not in favor of it. It's one thing for users to ironically badge things in the spirit of fun (at least I think that's how I got some badges), but using it to spotlight something the badger deems worthy of derision or ridicule seems on the cruel side to me. . . . but let's not have this turn into an "issue" . . . please.
When I see "ironic" badges from other people I mostly just want that shit out of my feed. It's one of those little egotistical poses that makes one feel clever in the moment but is really just annoying to everyone else. As if y'all care about the shitlord randos sniping at my posts. edit: this doesn't mean I'm going to stop, I'm just going to contemptuously judge everyone who does it
Ironic badges slightly bother me because they prevent the "badged" page from truly representing the best content. However, they still represent a "cost" to the user who has badged them so I would hope that it still indicates the comment is worth reading, just perhaps with a different context in mind. I do sometimes badge comments that I find hilarious, especially when out-of-context.
When we first introduced badges, the size if the community was much smaller. Therefore, it took longer to earn a badge as less people were sharing/appreciating your posts and comments. Now, I seem to get a new badge to give every single week. insomniasexx mentioned this in our Monday night team call and I think it's worth exploring slowing it down. It's supposed to be something hard earned and therefore special.
I actually was thinking about that as well on a somewhat related issue. As we gain active users it becomes significantly easier to obtain a full wheel, but after the wheel becomes full it is no longer possible (from the post) to accurately see how valued (or circled) it continues to be. I was wondering if you might be open to considering weighting the circle system as votes accumulate. Or rather if anyone thought this might be a good idea. For example, I think that the first vote a post or comment gets should always yield a circle added to the comment. But what if after that it took, say, 2 additional people to click the post before it earned another circle, or something? I don't think this is an imminent issue but I thought it was interesting. I had also considered how the speed of the site is changing.
It's hard to say what a good system is. Still, the majority of posts and comments get 0 or 1 share or click-of-approval, respectively. Then, out of the blue, something gets 20 shares, or who knows how many confidence clicks. Maybe throttling is the way to go: spoke 1 and 2 take one vote, three and four take two each, and so on. Not sure, but it's worth thinking about.
Another idea, perhaps when the 8 spokes complete the wheel in a comment, additional shares would come up as a tiny (+#) for how many upwheels it gets, like a super-superscript of the wheel. So a 12-upwheeled comment would have the fully-spoked circle with a tiny +4 beside it. Just a thought.
Yeah, it's being considered. I think it's more of an issue with comments than posts, currently. I like that I can see every user that has shared a post. But yeah, it's getting to point where we need to examine these things.
I feel like there's a philosophical aspect to ironic badging that I really love. minimum_wage started it and it's feels like this postmodernist degradation of the concept of value. I like it especially because it makes seems like it discourages badging of simple funny comments instead of well thought out quality posts. So either getting a badge means you did really, really well, or did something horrible, and it's a riot. I love it. But yeah let's not have something else for new people who just got here to complain about.
Haven't you heard? They're opening a Hubski Museum of Modern Badges, yeah it's super progressive and ironic, I hear the debut exhibition is a collection of ahametals posts on a canvas. Million dollar price tag, too.
I agree. Also don't think ironic badging should be a thing. I mean users are allowed to badge whatever they want, but it's kind of like the passive aggressive retweet of someone talking smack about you, and letting your followers do the insulting and fighting for you.
re. lil's "chatter" point- this has been my no. 1 tool to get familiar with the voices/online personalities (hopefully close-ish to real-life) of various Hubski users. I still use it all the time. First off, it's a great way to see what subjects people are coalescing around. Second off, if you've shared a post or commented on that post, chatter brings up all comments on that post, whether you follow the users or not. Which has been a great way to broaden the list of people I follow. Generally though, you pay enough attention to chatter, and you start to recognize users just by their voice.
I have only recently started using "chatter" and "global" because I read other users talking about them. I enjoy both. "Chatter" is a good opportunity to walk into a conversation in the middle, usually elicited by a hilarious out-of-context comment or a long, thoughtful one. Instead of exploring "global" more though I may begin exploring "posts with 0 shares" and "posts with 1 share." Global doesn't do exactly what I want it to do, I suspect it is because most of the posts in global show up in my feed already.
I'm pretty sure that simply commenting on a post does not bring comments from non-followed users into your chatter. Maybe it should. if you've shared a post or commented on that post, chatter brings up all comments on that post, whether you follow the users or not.
Hmmm. Good idea. I think that's probably an easy fix, if we ask forwardslash really nicely.
Either commenting or sharing... Or maybe both together? Never really thought about which one did it. Something like that...