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moe  ·  2948 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Please consider donating. Please?

Are there any public figures regarding the specifics of Hubski's operation costs? I'd like to consider putting in considerably more, though $3K (or even the $2.4K from the top-right metre) annually is ostensibly a bit much considering the site doesn't look like it'd be particularly resource-intensive (unless those figures include a dramatically low developer rate). An Azure A2 instance would run less than $1.2K/yr including bandwidth costs.





user-inactivated  ·  2948 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Are there any public figures regarding the specifics of Hubski's operation costs?

I think this post should answer this quesiton for you. :)

EDIT: Reverse TL;DR

    Currently, Hubski's server costs are $212/mo. That equates to $2544/yr. These costs are too high, and reflect an inefficiency of the Arc app. We are currently working to correct this inefficiency, and once this work is completed, we expect that out costs will drop to $116/mo, or $1392/yr.

    In addition to paying for servers, we buy stickers a couple of times per year, send them to people, and typically buy a few meals, drinks, and t-shirts. We might also include occasional travel expenses in these costs, but Hubski meetups feel too much like vacations.

    Hubski has always run in the red, and the money has come out of our pockets. This isn't an ideal situation, but it is a bearable one. However, there may come a time when our situation is not so bearable, and we thought it would be a good thing to be clear about where we are at.

    We have set the 2016 funding goal to $2400. Assuming we can bring our server costs down as planned, $2400 should enable us to pay for our servers, and leave some money for stickers, swag, meetups, and some room for an increase in server demand.

Of course, there's more content, commentary and jokes within the post and replies in that link above, but this is the fiscally relevant portion from mk's post.

moe  ·  2948 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks. Do you know what the 'Arc app' referenced is? Google's ARC doesn't seem right.

rob05c  ·  2943 days ago  ·  link  ·  

https://arclanguage.github.io/ref/

I do not recommend learning it. If you want a Lisp to learn, Racket is a good choice. Arc is a terrible, poorly documented, poorly supported, unreadable language, whose primary goal is to save characters at the cost of comprehension. Which is lunacy. Characters are in far greater supply than comprehension.

steve  ·  2943 days ago  ·  link  ·  

mk does love "simplicity".... (evil grin)

rob05c  ·  2943 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Arc is simple the way the Rabies virus is simple. And with the same symptoms: delirium, hallucinations, and raging, violent behavior.

Devac  ·  2943 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's a bit harsh. Arc isn't zoonotic, as opposed to Rabies. ;)

steve  ·  2948 days ago  ·  link  ·  

if memory serves... Arc was an offshoot language that Hacker News was written in. When mk first built this place, he did it based on HN code... which was in Arc.

edit: http://www.arclanguage.org

user-inactivated  ·  2948 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No problemo.

I don't know. mk?

EDIT: steve got your back.

thenewgreen  ·  2943 days ago  ·  link  ·  

moe, ARC is a dialect of Lisp. steve is correct that the original incarnation of Hubski was built on the bones of an HN clone. Though mk had cobbled together his own little monster that rob05c has uncobbled and is recobbling in a more amenable language.

user-inactivated  ·  2942 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks tng!