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insanecanadian  ·  4778 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: You Want to Track Me? Here You Go, F.B.I.
Though what he did with informing them about his flight as a heads-up makes sense, considering the circumstances, compiling a website full of all of the information about your life seems fairly excessive and possibly even dangerous.




mk  ·  4777 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Yeah, I think as a statement it makes sense. However, his argument that "if we all overwhelmed the FBI with our information it would protect us" doesn't hold water. Computers are getting better at sorting through the noise every day.

I think a much more effective approach would be to constantly publicly post erroneous information about yourself. You know insanecanadian, I spent last weekend in Bora Bora. It was fantastic. How is your Oldsmobile running?

At some point, I can see legislation that makes it illegal to lie about yourself online.

elahi  ·  4768 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  
Yes, I agree that the computers are getting better...and the new younger tech savvy agents are doing some great work. Unfortunately there are still plenty of Cold War dinosaurs still calling the shots in some of these agencies...until those guys are out of the picture, very little will change. There was no reason why it needed to take as long as it did for me...the very first FBI agent knew I was harmless, but the system didn't have enough trust in him to let him do his job and instead he had to move it down the line. The system of inefficiency is really sad and I really hope that these folks will do something about this.
thenewgreen  ·  4760 days ago  ·  link  ·  
This project of yours has me fascinated. Not so much for it's symbolic nature but for practical purposes. They say that when you write down your caloric intake every day, you are more apt to lose weight and eat more healthily. I've also heard it said that if you write down or document every purchase you make, you are more apt to be a responsible spender.

Do you find that your documenting of both your eating habits and your finances has had a positive impact on your dietary and financial health?

mk  ·  4768 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Hey, awesome. Thanks for dropping in!

So, I'm not clear on this: As the dinosaurs retire, these new agents are going to be better at sifting through our data. Do you think that will be a good thing because they'll get less false positives?

I fear it's not just previous experience, but something else that makes those dinosaurs act like idiots. Perhaps they got to call the shots because they are over-reaching paranoid idiots? These tech savvy guys might be tomorrows dinosaurs calling the shots, but with more of our information.

What you did was pretty slick, btw.

thenewgreen  ·  4777 days ago  ·  link  ·  
If there is ever legislation that "makes it illegal to lie about yourself online", then you can pretty much eliminate all online dating sites. -I'm all for that.

I think what his point may be is that the FBI is antiquated in it's approach to processing this information. While you are right that "Computers are getting better at sorting through the noise every day", it sounds like the "establishment" at the FBI isn't interested in the thoughtful analytics data mining can provide. If they were, I would imagine Mr. Elahi would never have had an issue.

blimpy  ·  4736 days ago  ·  link  ·  
yeah, just a wee-bit excessive. But then, that's the point right?
sounds_sound  ·  4777 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Really nice project. I personally think excessive is the point. And one could argue that what was done to him is excessive too. It's just great that what he did was treat the F.B.I. like an over protective mother. Telling them everything. "Hey Mom, I'm going out tonight." And then he starts calling them to tell them how his day went. Show and tell pictures of the nephews.

It's a great point about having an analyzing problem. Reading through all that data is unreasonable. But not to long ago, you could more easily hear the phrase 'human intelligence' in the media. If you haven't seen "The Lives of Others" then I recommend it. Takes place in East Berlin before the autumn of nations. Spies abound in the art world looking for turncoats. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3_iLOp6IhM

thenewgreen  ·  4777 days ago  ·  link  ·  
A wonderful film.
b_b  ·  4778 days ago  ·  link  ·  
"...compiling a website full of all of the information about your life seems fairly excessive and possibly even dangerous."

I agree that it might be dangerous, but that's the nature of art. If artists cease to be dangerous, then we will end up living in a world full of Bob Ross facsimiles (not that there's anything wrong with him, but one is good enough). Having just watched a long Nightmare on Elm Street marathon, I can sympathize with the author when he says confronting the FBI and giving them what they want is the best way to neutralize all of the power that they have.

thenewgreen  ·  4778 days ago  ·  link  ·  
It's beyond excessive, is't obsessive.

I've never gone through anything like this but I get taken aside for increased security checks about 80% of the time when I travel. I'm 3rd generation US citizen but my mother is of mexican decent and my father German. Phenotypically, this must equate to "crazy looking terrorist guy" because I almost always get searched. The last time, they swabbed all my belongings and ran them through some machine to make sure there was not any trace of explosive. Really? Me? I'm a lover, not a fighter.

eec  ·  4775 days ago  ·  link  ·  
You should start keeping detailed records so that you can defend yourself. It seems Mr. Elahi could have been in a more precarious position had he not been meticulous about keeping a daily calendar of events.
elahi  ·  4768 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Yup, the new 24/7 alibi! We're all going to need one sooner or later
mantis  ·  4491 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Do you really think it will come to this? Did you happen to read the news story of the man that was wearing his "camera glasses" in a McDonalds in Paris and was accosted by some employees there? Do you think these types of glasses (or the equivalent) will someday be the norm? If so, what does this do for society? Will it make people more tolerant, more "honest", knowing that their every action is documented?

fakepalindrome  ·  4539 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Is this hyperbole, or do you sincerely think it's in our best interests to have a 24/7 alibi?
elahi  ·  4768 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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