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See? I've been on hubski for five minutes because of that reddit comment and I can all ready tell what a good community it must be. That reddit trend is full of people blaming other users for low quality. Reddit is a site that actually hates on other sites and people joining the community because of those other sites; and here one of you is saying that last time this happened the good users stayed and are welcome. How interesting that you expect content to change from all the new users coming from Reddit. This is another site, so I doubt that the original attitude of said users will remain. Sort of like we all behave differently under different circumstances in our physical lives.
I agree with you 100%. being able to actually comment without being pushed into the depths is a real nice change.
I have to agree with that. I really dig the clean design Hubski has, too. It seems like an interesting concept. Does anyone know if there is an Android app available? I'm learning programming so maybe I could make it (it would take time, of course) if an API is available.
You can change the design/layout in your settings. I'm currently rocking the "spring" design, which I feel adds a needed splash of color. I'm thinking I'll probably create an android app sooner or later. There isn't one at the moment (just from a quick search on the play store). I'll have to ask about an api, seeing as it's not immediately obvious. There's a few RSS feeds for the various content, but nothing I could find for logging in or posting.
I was one of the people asking for an API last time we had a influx of reddit users, and I even had a prototype app working off my scraping API. While I love the idea of an API, I realize that most websites who create one follow the same trend: release a public API, get free traffic from creative devs, then cut back on the API as it serves the business needs of the site. We do hope to find a sustainable way to release an API or otherwise extend the hubski community, but we don't want to make the same mistakes others have.
Not at the moment, sorry. We have a few things that are taking priority, such as a mobile version of the site.
I knew I liked you. Spring is my favorite as well! The API is...Ill find the post for you in the morning. It been discussed. Perhaps revisit it again with new users offering their services. forwardslash see above re: API. Sleep time now. Goodnight.
Yeah, I've seen that. I really like the dark and the clean theme. Spring's green is too vivid for me. That's what I was thinking. Do you already have experience in Android/Java programming?
I actually saw a comment that said that an API is being developed, but that was more than 200 days ago.
I have a bit of experience with Android development. I've made a few apps a couple years back (and some money off it). And I'm currently working on one in my free time for a different website. So I definitely have experience in doing this type of thing. A hubski app doesn't seem that difficult to make.
I kind of like this. It reminds me of how many users from Digg migrated over to Reddit.
So many people coming to see what the fuss is all about. I don't think there's too much to worry about though. There were quite a few comments saying how much they preferred Reddit or what they didn't like about Hubski. I'm not all sure that Hubski has any appeal to the average "default user" or Reddit. Sure there might be a few extra members but I don't see the place getting overrun any time soon.
This is perfect then. I was getting tired of Reddit's pic-centric attitude. I slowly started to use it more and more for news and general discussion. I'm glad I found this place. It just needs to be a bit more lively here. Looks like a very small community...
Likewise. I'm new thanks to that reddit post but if hubski proves to be a better community for me than reddit, I'll gladly switch and contribute as much as I can.
We have a lot of lurkers and a small group of regular, very active commenters. I don't know why we have so many lurkers, maybe they just join and then sit back. I'm interested to see what will become of this. Before this I think I generally 'knew' everyone who commented regularly on the topics I followed. I am going to have to learn new people and names. I feel a bit trepidatious.
A large part of Reddit's following comes from the viewership of images (obvious popularity of image-based subreddits). Hubski is far more geared towards text and writing as opposed to visual stimuli - that isn't to ignore all of the awesome articles and photos that are posted. I guess it's apparent that Hubski values a textual community over, essentially, an image-based gallery, maybe? That last statement was definitely an oversimplification.
I don't mind pics as long as there's something to them. The thing I like about Hubski is that if someone posts a picture they usually follow it up with something that leads to a real conversation.
reddit is useful in the way that it has so many varieties of subreddits with decent numbers of members. reddit has thousands of different communities, and it is the central hub for many of those communities. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes, and reddit can offer you a place to discuss them. You don't have to subscribe to those default subreddits if you don't want to. That's the beauty of reddit. None but a few subreddits that I am subscribed to have pictures. And most of those pictures are educational. The subreddits I'm subscribed to are generally above average people, and they know how to make a great community. Some examples: /r/programming, /r/startrek, /r/books, and /r/netsec. Those are all great communities. People generally look at the defaults and think that all of reddit is like that. However, that is simply not the case. I like Hubski; it's a great site. However, the only thing I see that Hubski could offer is an alternative to popular subreddits. That's not necessarily a bad thing, though. I joined Hubski for an alternative to subreddits like /r/AskReddit. (I'm so tired of all those pun threads.)
We have #askhubski if you like thought-provoking questions. It's pretty good and it doesn't suffer from the r/AskReddit problems of a) "I want to tell a story so I'm going to ask a question so I can tell you the story in the textblock!" or b) "I'm going to ask an extreme question most of you can't respond to, and the ones who do may just be making shit up." So far we are avoiding circlejerkish qualities. I would like to not see a pun thread here, ever. Those have been beaten to death with me - those, and novelty accounts. Please, please no novelty accounts.
I actually just wandered over here from Reddit, I'm curious to how you found this site. I've been wanting to find smaller communities to be a part of, but I don't know where to look.
Try following different tags that strike your interests. I started following people that posted things I liked in the tags I followed. I think that's a good way to start with the site.
About ... 8 months ago (?) hubski was mentioned at the top of an r/theoryofreddit post and for about two weeks afterward certain parts of the site were a mess. The ignore and mute and so on completely proved their worth and everything equalized, but there was definitely a noticeable effect.
Has there been any lasting effect? Has the site changed much since the last mention? I'm really interested in all of this.
What I see hasn't! What I see is different from what you see, and mk sees, and so on. That's one of the beauties of hubski. Influxes like this have proved overwhelmingly positive, because only the best of those who flood in stay. We got some of my favorite hubski users from that r/tor post.
I remember joining after that r/tor post. I really wished I had put the time into Hubski that I'm putting into it now. I'm really enjoying this place.
I've already been reading more than I ever had without Hubski. I think with Reddit, other time wasting content was too readily available. I unsubbed from pretty much all of the defaults but I still wasn't getting all out of Reddit that I should. I think the main difference now is that Hubski gives me a reason to want to spend twenty minutes reading through an article.
I think the stongest point of Hubski is that the content is quite limited. I can't spend hours scrolling headlines like I did at Reddit. Often enough, after a page or so I've seen most of the content of the day. That means that nearly every post gets my full attention: I want to participate in the discussions, so I want to read the articles. And when I'm out of content, conversation is always possible and encouraged.was too readily available
No, not basically that. It is an aspect of the greater picture, but to reduce my post to that would lose the nuance. The difference is the value I give to a post, not just the value that the post already has. Reddit might have the exact same article, but I give it much more thought here than on there, because I know that it might spawn a good discussion. Simplifying a statement always reduces some quality, but if you simplify too much you might lose it completely.
The good users stayed. There was a huge influx of posts and circlejerking posts that no one really noticed. They all got bored and left in a week but a number of people stayed and are still here and are the best.
Oh, wow. Of course. ...great. EDIT: the last big reddit influx dovetailed with the worst level of discussion I've ever seen on hubski. #askhubski was ruined for months and I've never ignored so many commenters as I did in just a week or two. So some sort of preemptive post from mk might not go amiss, although I'm not sure what it would say. Hopefully they'll get frightened away by our terrible user interface.
In theory, this should be the old guard redditors, who were on before it became a cesspool of idiocy. That said, it really could go either way.
I've been using reddit for 7 years. For the past 3 years it has gone to shit. I hate it now. I've been waiting for this site for years. I feel like I've become much stupider since reddit went downhill. Thank god I never have to go back to that pit of hell.
Before digg killed itself reddit was really good. Now in comparison even the old digg is an oasis compared to the shithole that is now reddit. I'd like to kick kevin roses' ass. If he didn't fuck up digg then digg would be popular right now since the idiotic masses would be attracted to the bright colors of digg and reddit would still be good. What a fucking idiot that guy is digg could be worth half a billion by now if he didn't ruin it.
And also why hubski's error log was so fast. It was like looking into the matrix, except with mostly tcp errors.
I'm also a new user that came from Reddit. I've progressed from being an addicted user to 4Chan, then to Digg, then to Reddit. And now Hubski might be my new place to set up shop. I like it here. Although, from what I remember, I began losing interest in those sites when I began seeing more and more comments about how each particular website was becoming "too mainstream" and all the quality content had begun to vanish. However, that just feels like the natural evolution of these websites, and it's not the website's fault. It's like when you get a new girlfriend or boyfriend. At first, everything's so new and exciting, then it settles down, you become comfortable and this website becomes part of your everyday life. Then the more familiar you become, you start to notice little things that annoy you until one day you get too bored (Reddit) or you get into a huge fight and it all blows up in your face (Digg V4) and you move on to a new relationship. But let's hope that Hubski is the one I marry.
There seems to be a general consensus that as a website's popularity increases beyond a certain point, the quality of the content begins to diminish. I think that there's some truth in this and I've seen it taken as dogma on Reddit. In my opinion, 4Chan is a good counter-example, despite increasing popularity, I don't think the quality has decreased beyond a significantly aside from people complaining about their "club" that used to feel exclusive becoming more open.
I guess I agree to an extent, but there are also other things that factor in. I left 4Chan because I just kind of out-grew it. I'd been on the website since I was around 14/15 and I think I just out-grew the humour. I still go back to it every now and then to see how it has evolved and for the nostalgia. Then the same thing happened with Reddit, but I still enjoy the civil discussions you find on the smaller, interest-specific subreddits.
I wonder if there are any tools available at Hubski's disposal to prevent itself from going down the path that Reddit did. I've yet to see any offered solutions, but even though I'm a brand new user, I do wonder if there's anything that really can be done, beyond, say, limiting membership to a small number.
We made a very deliberate choice to make Hubski about sharing content rather than competing to have your content make a "main page". We also made the choice to put the moderating in the hands of the user. You can ignore users/tags/URL's and you can use the mute function to curtail the most obnoxious users. Point is, with all of these tools at your disposal there could conceivably be a faction of Hubski that is less than quality and you'll never interact with them -won't even know they exist. Hopefully a membership model is never neccesary, but I will say that we would rather burn the place to the ground than compromise it's integrity for the sake of growth. We are interested in quality, not quantity. Glad you found us dONK!
While I think that it's great that you're able to mute and therefore erase whole sections of the site from your experience, I was able to do this on Reddit, and it still wasn't really an ideal solution for me. I say this because while one can unsubscribe from the main sources of crap - /r/funny, for instance - this doesn't eliminate the problem entirely. First, the crap often gets cross-posted, or otherwise inevitably bleeds out into other subreddits. Secondly, the ensuing "memes" or "inside jokes" that these large subreddits produce also infect the smaller ones. Finally, while it's nice to be rid of it, you can't help but feel "left out" of a lot of what's going on with the site. People begin referencing things you've never seen, joking about it, responding to it, and while you may have been better off not knowing the source, you can't help but still wonder what it is. Nonetheless, it seems you guys are a long way off of that thus far. Thanks! Happy to be here.
You ever see the movie High Fidelity? The protagonist, Rob Gordon is a record shop owner that someday wants to be a "part of" that which he peddles. At the end of the film, he releases an LP for some musicians that previously loiter outside of his establishment. My point is, there is this cool moment when his girlfriend let's him know that he is now a part of this. -He contributed to music! Long story short... you commented here, on Hubski. You are now a part of this. Welcome to our community.
"What do you call yourselves?" "The Kinky Wizards." "..." Sorry, absolutely love that movie.he releases an LP for some musicians that previously loiter outside of his establishment.
I'm looking at the data and talking with mk. So right now we're at approximately 80 hits/minute at so far we have ???? new users. I'll post some comparisons from last years theoryofreddit frontpage post. Give me a minute. Our servers are hurting. mk and fowardslash have been working for the last 3 hours trying to sort it all out. 10/1 Midnight (east coast time) (reddit post was posted 9 hours ago): 10/2 1:45am: 3am East Coast Time (aka bed time) 9:30am EST (good morning!) Here is the graph of the last year: (updated graph, 3am): (updated graph, 9:30am) 9:30pm EST 10/2 That spike on the left is the /r/theoryofreddit post and you can see the spike today. And, if you are curious, we redid what we track on the analytics so that's why it looks like we've had a sudden drop in visitors....we really haven't. They are just on a different graph now.
I'm guessing it will be similar to last years. You can see them dwindle off slowly over the next month. It's so hard to tell on that graph. The hits from these posts are like 1000x our normal traffic so it squishes everything down.
I'm about to post more, give me a second. My boss is going to fucking kill me. I should be dressing up like a nice little lady to impress the corporate execs right now. Instead I'm jerking it to traffic influx.
Me too. Couldn't get on the hub at all, was very disappoint. Had to resort to circling humanodon on G+ and watching House of Cards. I am trying to not take a dim view of this. If I start seeing imageposts I will be unhappy. Everyone else is pretty positive about the influx, so...I suppose I can't complain. Not yet, anyway.
I do still use Reddit occasionally but it's because I've sorted through a lot of it and frontpaged about 50 small subreddits tailored to my interests and un-front-paged basically all the major ones. That reminds me, if AMA shows up here, I'm also going to punch my screen. But what does amaze me is how the front page changes between before I log in, and after. The front page is basically an imageboard now. That's great...if you don't like thinking
I have nothing wrong with imageboards. From time to time, I browse 4chan and 2chan just because the cultures fascinate me. What bothers me about images on reddit is that they prefer to make it honest instead of having a story to it. Then when you check the comments, the wide range of them all seem to lack the weight of wit. And the jokes are predictable. Maybe this is what it feels to be growing up.
That is something I would love to see. It'd be better to see the traffic starting a week before today leading up to a week or two from today. That way we could see the extent of the traffic spike and how much it dies down.
So this is why I got 16 new followers overnight! Welcome everyone : )
I just joined this site also because of the comment there, and so far I really am liking this community. It seems more mature so far, with people actually having good discussions and not just constant puns and jokes.
I can see the same conversation happening about this site in a few years. Especially considering we now have more stats to use in the inevitable dick-measuring contest. Instead of karma we now have followers.
It won't be the new users. It'll be the the ones from the left side of the bell-curve who follow the herd over here who cause it.
eeep, I have over 200 followers and I don't even have a dick! (just a strap-on) (which I have to use, every time I visit hubski) In reality, this site is not about rewards. Having followers is just an added responsibility to try and give them something worth reading.
First post on this site. I think Hubski Enhancement Suite needs to exist.
To add to Kafke, there isn't much of a need for a Hubski Enhancement Suite yet due to the fact that the wonderful mk implements features about as fast as we can throw them at him. You can add suggestions using the #suggestions tag. I recommend you read through the old suggestions and features (see: #hubskiblog) and read those discussions to see how things happen and get insight on what features exist and why. It's really interesting. The server is in lockdown mode so give it some time until we're back up and running to see the full history of tags and posts. We really took a beating tonight.
Hubski Enhancement Suite as well as other Hubski tools can be found on the tools page. There's a link down at the bottom of the page as well. It seems Hubski Enhancement Suite is a javascript for use with greasemonkey and the like, while the other tools are chrome extensions.
Unfortunately HES development has fallen to the wayside - as I have since joined the hubski team - but if anyone wants to pick it up they're welcome to.