Anyone interested in adding to this? T-Dog, BLOB_CASTLE, ghostoffuffle, bgood79, rezzeJ, rob05c -cause I mentioned it in IRC, jonaswildman
A long time ago I had a conversation with both mk and kleinbl00 on Hubski about how hippies are actually the meanest social group and that goth tend to be much nicer. Last week I was driving and saw a hippy walking down the street with a blind smile on her face. I thought to myself, "I wonder if she's made anyone cry today?"
Thus this song was born. I've been walking around with the refrain, "the hip, hippy, hipsters are walking down the streets, happy as can be" for the past week.
It's not that great of a tune, but I needed to make it.
Feedback welcome
lil -I played hockey.
The way to help with (3) would be to make sure that the file you upload starts at exactly the same spot as the file TNG uploaded. Like, exactly. Last time, your two files didn't even start in the same place. You should be able to import what you upload into a new project right next to the old project and hear no flanging, no phasing, no delay, nothing. Theoretically you should be able to invert phase on one track and have it cancel out the other. ptf is a pro tools project format. It's old. It's what TNG uses. The rest of us moved on to .ptx like 4 years ago.
Dammit! I forgot the clap. Next time. I'll send the PTF tonight after some House of Cards. Way behind in that department and from what I've seen, it's a pretty stellar second season. Edit: will send tomorrow
So I use Audacity because it's free. What I do is export the audio of the previous file with mine. I then delete the track that isn't mine, and export my isolated track that way. How it doesn't line up then is besides me. Any suggestions?
Whelp, this is why I suggested TNG post every track he starts with an audible "Click" so that I can line it up. Because beyond that, Audacity is just barely better than nothing. Things substantially better than nothing, and also free?
Use both. Figure out which one works better for you. I'm gonna guess Reaper; it has a lot of proponents and Pro Tools Free is even more cut down than Pro Tools, which is virtually useless compared to Pro Tools HD. Which costs an eye-popping amount of money for someone used to "free." I have plugins that cost $900.
I'll get on this tomorrow. The last time I saw my family, my little brother asked me, "are you a hippy?" I replied, "yes, I guess I am." My mom chimed in, "well, at least you're a clean hippy."
So this is an awesome track that can't really be taken any further than this without several hours in liquid audio getting the timing to line up. 1) The fact that TNG thinks the tempo is 176 while BC thinks it's 85 is a problem. It's kind of 86. Not quite. 2) The arpeggio synth is... off. Not only that but when you try to line anything up with the drums and the synth it's a trainwreck. 3) Without firm commitment to a tempo, and no real drums, the minute you hit the bridge (1:27) there's a fair amount of fumbling to 1:32. 4) With the native tempo of the song not matching the tempo of the recorded parts, it's kind of impossible for me to drop anything else in there. I tried a couple different arpeggio replacements but they only served to accent that everything else isn't on the same tempo. So I kept the other frantic arpeggio because it's kind of doing its own thing. So that's about 3.5 hours, and more than that isn't really going to help because the tighter I make the production, the more you hear the timing. Kind of a shame 'cuz it's a fun track. Thanks. That was fun!
Dude, I like what you did, a lot but you're right, the timing is so fucking off, it's unbearable and this isn't your doing. I'm sorry man. I resolve two things from here on out: 1. Clap tracks 2. Quarter note click tracks thatvi actually pay attention ti What happens is this: I think to myself, hey, I should record. Then I spend an hour working on something and think to myself, this is actually kind of cool, I think I'll share it with the Hubski crew but by that point I've not done steps one or two above. No matter what I begin with steps 1 and 2 from now on, no matter the wine involved. Also, is it just me or is the bass all outa whack? I think this too is my fault, I added synth at the end which is chordal in nature and therefore may not jive w what BLOB_CASTLE did. All in all though, it sounds titties given what you were given. Hell, you make me want to write a real song. If only my father in law weren't here sleeping next to my studio tonight. Thanks kb!
Right. So here's what the process looks like for me: 1) Listen to song. Determine where the pigfucks are going to be. 2) Open pro tools session. Build out about twelve busses and move your insert effects to bus effects. Replace janky effects with better effects. 3) Play whackamole lining up everyone else's tracks. Because BC rocks audacity he's kind of helpless to make this easy; the first thing I do is import his whole track and his naked track, solo them and try and get them lined up. This means listening to flanging and moving things literally sample by sample. As that rarely works I give up and move them 64th note by 64th note until I no longer hear delay. Then I solo your main track and his main track and both of BC's tracks by the same amount so I don't hear flanging anymore again. Then I mute both main tracks and hope the bass lines up with your stuff. Which, since BC does a lot of counterbeat stuff, doesn't always. 4) Start mixing. Of the 3.5 hours spent, 45 minutes were Step 4. Probably 30 were spent trying to find a tempo whereby I could actually make cuts and edits and have them on the grid and failing. Probably 45 were spent trying to find an arpeggio that didn't emphasize how badly the timing drifts. So yeah, it's a drag. And yeah - the bass is probably outta whack. The problem is, it's in whack in one place and outta whack in other places and again, without getting all liquid audio on it, that's what it's gonna be. QUESTION: Have you built out a template for this? Or do you just sorta rock on it however you feel like? 'cuz empty tracks beat the hell out of random tracks.
Hey, I just listened to this again and it's really good, except for the bass. It's just so out of line. I'd love to hear a bounce without any bass at all. Any chance you could provide that? I dig all the treatments. Well done!
Yeah, gives me a good break in the writer's block. Worthy of note: yeah, the bass is a little loose but the tam and the shaker don't quite agree, either. I'm assuming the drum loop is built in a machine, yeah? So it should be rock solid. Where'd the arpeggio come from? 'cuz if it's an internal synth it should be rock solid, too... and if it isn't, it should be re-triggered every measure or so. So you've got a few triggers for rhythm to go off of with the guitars and vocals, and sometimes you follow one, sometimes you follow another. I moved the drum loop like a 128th note in one spot and like a 64th note in another because they weren't starting on the downbeat... but it didn't help that much. There are other bits that need to be brought into rigid time and that's a tedious exercise that would take me the better part of a day. Fundamentally, the timing be loose, yo.
Electric. I gave it a go last night, but it wasn't grooving as hard as I wanted to. I went again this morning, and realized standing up and dancing while playing is essential to a hard groove.
Go to "permissions" on the soundcloud page for your tracks and enable them. This way KB can download your work and import it to the PTS.