Looks like the one Reddit admin that has been nice to moderators has been fired yesterday.
In protest almost a dozen subreddits have shut down. Leave it to Reddit to fire the one admin that everyone liked.
Looks like KotakuInAction is now filtered
PS. is Hubski ready for another user influx?
As a redditor of 4 years, I've wanted a new site to frequent for a while. Each time something like this happens, it brings that desire to the foreground. The default Reddit experience can be draining... simply tiring. The drama, annoying trends, jokes driven into the ground, predictable comments - there's just a pile of petty gripes that eventually make a mark. Sure, you could just subscribe to the smaller subreddits and unsubscribe from the big ones - but that didn't really work for me. I enjoy many aspects of the "/r/all" experience - it's an incredible amount of content streaming in from all directions. Crowds of people to interact with. And for the most part, it's nice - until those little issues rear their ugly heads and start to pile up again. People tell me that the problems I have with reddit have less to do with reddit, and moreso to do with the internet itself; that any large community on such a site would end up having the same issues, because people are people. Well, I'm not so sure. I'd love a new site to dig into - I think one could do the job - but there aren't many alternatives worth even a mention right now. Voat is a dissapointing silhouette with less features and (currently) a lot of downtime, understandably so. Hubski is great, but only as a side visit for me right now - it's missing many aspects a redditor would expect. Not that this is a bad thing. It's just that Hubski's different - it won't be what many redditors are looking for in a replacement site. The lack of individually managed subreddits, differences in upvote philosophy, and the lack of easily digestable image and video content (due to the heavily discussion-based nature of the site) all factor into that. Many of us just want a change of pace from the monotony. Something fresh, if only for a little while. Personally, I think I'll continue to visit Hubski to satisfy the discussion side. But I'm at a loss for the other side: easily digestable media.
Honestly, Hubski has a little bit of the easily digestible media. It tends to be a bit more on the quality content side instead of a quick meme post though. The discussions though, that's what I'm here for and that's what I'm dying to see more of. I can't use the internet while I'm at work, but every now and again I'll have my phone out on my lunch to see what's been posted throughout the day. It kills me to see some good submissions with that little "0" floating next to the right all day. It's enough to make me want to quit my job and become a serial commentor. If only being a bum on the internet paid bills . . .Personally, I think I'll continue to visit Hubski to satisfy the discussion side. But I'm at a loss for the other side: easily digestable media.
Guess I haven't stuck around long enough to see that much of it, then. I guess what I'm saying is, though I enjoy discussion, I also enjoy content that doesn't necessarily create good discussion. Making Hubski a half-replacement. Which I don't really mind - it's got a certain charm :) One can only dream. You and me both!Honestly, Hubski has a little bit of the easily digestible media.
If only being a bum on the internet paid bills . . .
This sums up my attitude as well. I think there's also something to be said about how some of Hubski's most commented on posts are about Reddit. We crave content and discussion and the two often make strange bedfellows.
It seems to be a much lighter site and a lot more friendly/lonely! It doesn't have the stories of Reddit but it does have the capability to be, it's much better designed. I'm not sure if I feel comfortable on reddit anymore though, with everything falling apart like this, I'm at an impasse in the community.
I hear this whole thing started because of disastrous AMA with Jesse Jackson. Even while that bit is controversial, it's much less controversial than the whole FPH issue. What makes it interesting is that a lot of this is being driven by the mods who feel fed up with how hands off and uncommunicative the admins are. As I said in the other thread the Quatrarius posted, this is what happens when you sell out. You're so focused on what you hope to become, you quickly forget that what you were and what you already have is what made you great.
That was a small event that lead into, but didn't necessarily cause, the firing of the admin, Victoria. Which was the straw the broke the camel's back for reddit users, because it effectively put /r/iAmA at a standstill in her absence. This cascaded and released a bunch of tension between mods->admins and users->admins. People are tired of admin negligence and shady practices. Kind of a WW1 Franz Ferdinand type deal.I hear this whole thing started because of disastrous AMA with Jesse Jackson.
People were angry because they felt Reddit had betrayed their whole 'free speech' philosophy. Reddit's a place where people can make a community about anything, as long as it's legal. So, when their legal subreddit about hating fat people got banned, they cried out about censorship, hypocrisy, and lies. From my understanding, the admins' justification as to why they banned /r/fatpeoplehate was that its users were actively harassing other subreddits and communities - and they were banning behavior, not ideas or free speech. Some people didn't accept that, and still believed it was straight censorship. Others believed that banning an entire subreddit for the actions of a few users was wrong. It just keeps going from there. Ultimately, Reddit can do whatever they want, including bending their own rules and philosophies - but they'll anger the community doing so, understandably. Many were okay with the whole deal because /r/fatpeoplehate is widely considered to be a cesspool. But a lot of people weren't okay with it, regardless of their opinion on the specific subreddits involved.
That's one of the best summaries I've read. Thank you for giving a fairly unbiased report.
Well said. As fickle as it seems to jump off reddit for something I was a third party to, I understand the frustrations. This site is new enough for me to WANT to contribute. Not just lurk so I can help where I can. Making this more a more symbiotic rship
Im totally out of the loop here, what was so disasterous about Jesse Jacksons AMA?
I think the issue is "smaller", but I think this is a significantly more serious response. If most of the defaults are offline for more than a few days, I think it would take reddit a long time to recover from the user losses. The masses are fickle. they'll get their memes served up hot and fresh somewhere else.
The people who are still using Slashdot are the people like me who cannot overcome the "sunk Cost Fallacy" and move elsewhere. There is maybe, MAYBE one or two articles a week now that are worth my time on Slashdot. The tech board on 8chan is more lively and interesting. And there are some people there who do just about everything in tech from finding virus vectors to virtual engineering to building gamming PCs. The meme people will flood Imgur and deal with that bad website (Twitter with pictures IMO and I FUCKING HATE twitter). The thing I miss about Reddit are the niche gaming subreddits like for EU4 and Crusader Kings and even Elite Dangerous. The Kerbal Space Program subreddit was the best place in all of Reddit, again in my opinion. People will leave and form communities and those communities will gain a reputation just like Slashdot, Digg, Reddit, SlackNews, 4chan Neogaff etc did before them. Hubski may be small, but the signal to noise level here is amazing. I'm here for the long haul.
yeah, but what's slashdot's percentage of the market in comparison to reddit (I actually have no idea)? the site will still function, I'm sure - with the amount of websites that rely solely on it for content it's almost in a "too big to fail" caliber - but I can see a lot of user base moving off of reddit to find their next fix awfully quickly. And I don't say that to disparage those people (it probably sounds like I am), it's just that humans act very differently as a mob than they do as individuals.
Natalie Portman and oatmeal are dead, Netcraft confirms it. Slashdot fails as a news site because it's slower than everyone else, the best comments are redundant because everyone reading slashdot is also reading reddit and hackernews and LtU and ..., and because Slashdot is the last to post the interesting comments have already been made. Even its memes are stale. CmdrTaco himself gave up on it after the OMG Ponies! april fools thing. The moderation system is clever, but the community just kind of froze somewhere between 1999 and 2006. It's sort of comforting, because geek culture has gotten a lot less fun in the mean time if it's still even a thing outside of marketing, and Slashdot is a sort of unliving Pompeii that's a lot like the good old days except with more dust and ambulatory corpses, but it's not "stuff that matters" anymore.
And really, all of this is compounded with the current ownership structure at Slashdot. Dice has been destroying a lot of good faith with their moves at SourceForge, and ThinkGeek's sale to Gamestop. Slashdot is pretty much living on borrowed time.
About a year ago, the issues at Slashdot came to a head with the botched rollout of the new "beta" interface. The redesign reflected a complete disconnect from the community, and prompted a large scale "slashcott" boycott/revolt. This ended up resulting in the creation of SoylentNews, and the migration of a chunk of the community. Dice has continued to demonstrate a complete lack of understanding and simply rolls forward with more additions of sponsored content, video content that no one asked for, and most recently, outright replacing the "Read the [n] comments" link with a social media "share" button. I see a LOT of parallels with the situation at Reddit.
There's one reason I'll miss reddit. It's a catchall for communities. For many of the interests I have, the related subreddit is as good or better than any other forum or community that may exist. If I want to find an established community based around some new game or activity I've discovered, my first step is to search for a related subreddit. And most of these subreddits are great; little to no drama, lots of active members, and useful content daily. This isn't a role I can see hubski filling soon or maybe ever.
Check out voat. After this all calms down that is.
I have been on Voat for some time now. It is a decent place in principle, but after the last wave or two of people joining in it is becoming less welcoming to dissent and more and more circlejerky about how they are supposedly better than Reddit. I have nothing against Voat growing, a competitor to Reddit is a good thing, IMO, but it lacks diversity and content at this point.
I'm hoping the great migrations of '15 will result in some cool new communities popping up, I have seen such an amazing influx in the past 24hrs!
I just decided to give it a try, switched from Snapzu to Hubski for a second and saw this message :) It's got a nice design, can't really get a sense of the community with all the introduction and meta posts about Snapzu and Reddit. The gamification process is interesting, I haven't used a website with something similar in a couple years now. Time will tell, I guess. For now I will be jumping around Voat, Snapzu, and Hubski, seeing which community I like the most and which website can actually keep its head above the water with the Reddit hug of death incoming.
I'm one of those reddit users. I'm not even that upset, I'm just curious about this place because people are mentioning it as a place for good discussion. I hope I can contribute to the community.
welcome! I always recommend following some tags (upper right hand corner) and then finding some people that you think post good content and follow them. If you have any questions about the site, you can use the #newtohubski tag, or just ask here. Happy to help. Enjoy!
Hubski has kind of a cult-y culture, and vote is fairly right wing, so IDK, personally I'd like to see some serious innovation. There are myriad new things a website could try.
True. Wait, what? Citations required.Hubski has kind of a cult-y culture...
...and vote is fairly right wing...
As long as good and interesting people come in, then bring them in.
I dunno. On the one hand, that sounds like a fair trade. On the other hand though . . . how good does mead go with naan? Now that I'm thinking about bread, I kind of want to find a grocery store that's still open and get myself some french bread. Dip that in a bit of olive oil with bits of rosemary and thyme in it. Mmm. Yummy.
All I can ask myself at this point is one thing- Where has Hubski been all my internet life?
I was redirected to this site by a redditor who left behind a list of reddit alternatives. Right off the bat, I fell in love with Hubski's interface and mission. But just like a lot of other former redditors on this thread are saying, I too will miss some of Reddit's features. I was subscribed to a lot of subreddits that were not that popular, but had an excellent community. I was willing to look past the whole fatpeoplehate dilemma, and stay on Reddit, but after this second wave of mod/admin drama, I knew it was time to leave. To all you regular Hubski users, thank you for giving me a new home. This will definitely be somewhat of a 180 in terms of content, considering I can definitely tell Hubski takes meaningful discussions seriously, but I know this is what is best for me in the long run!
Hello, I'm migrating as well. I was doing voat since the FPH fiasco because I knew it was going to become a sinking ship. I had a very small list of subs I subscribed too and most the default ones I kept are now private. I was into weight loss, wrestling, new zealand and Beijing subs, so I've been a bit scared to delete my app because I'm not sure when those smaller subreddits will decide to move en masse. I will give this a solid try. Hope the negative redditors don't bring the same hate trains with them.
No kidding? I'm into Boxing (more /r/amatuer_boxing and less /r/Boxing) and MMA myself. I don't know much about wrestlers, but I have mad respect for the athletes. You should post share some bits about wrestling here and there from time to time. I'd love to see what you consider interesting. I'll be the first to follow you. Edit: Oooh. You like Pro-Wrestling. Meh. Statement still stands. Welcome!I was into weight loss, wrestling, new zealand and Beijing subs, so I've been a bit scared to delete my app because I'm not sure when those smaller subreddits will decide to move en masse.
Haha yeah sorry to burst your bubble. I used to follow wcw as a youngin and now listen to the Steve Austin podcast. I've always been quite gumby, however my wife used to do taekwondo in Beijing. She used to also be a referee. And when I went back to Beijing I met her coach. He showed me an article in English about himself. It talked about how Chinese wrestling (Shuai jiao) used to be the biggest sport in china but then the government stopped sponsoring it and athletes went into Olympic sports. Her coach tried to bring it back and uses his taekwondo school to subsidize the sport of shuai jiao and now it is becoming an international sport. He was really proud he was in an international magazine then told my wife he doesn't know what the article said because he hasn't seen it in Chinese, so my wife had to explain what the article is about.
I joked it could have said how much of an idiot he is and he was going around feeling proud he was in a magazine haha.
Have you ever thought about checking out actual wrestling, boxing, or MMA? The fights can be just as entertaining, if not more so because they're real. If you're willing to keep up with events outside the ring/cage, you'll often find just as much drama as well.
I followed MMA when flatting but I'm not that keen on pirating, mostly because I'm lazy, and I don't have cable. I haven't seen if you can purchase PPVs online. Boxing is such a huge sport I wouldn't know where to start. I just watch pacquaios fights mainly. And I've never seen wrestling outside the olympics. I didn't even know it had it's own following (is it televised?)
I don't pirate anything myself, so I feel where you're coming from as far as trying to keep up. For MMA, my buds and I usually hit up the local bar and watch the UFC Fights on Saturday nights. It's great, because for less than half the price of a PPV Ticket you get to enjoy the food and company with your friends as well as get out of your wife's hair for a night. The only downside is that the bar is too loud for you to ever really hear the commentators. If you don't have a thing against seeing old fights, UFC's Youtube channel regularly posts free fights. Unfortunately for boxing, none of my local bars ever show any PPV Fights as they don't draw a big enough crowd to justify the cost of being allowed to show them. However, some of the smaller promotions can be found on standard cable channels like ESPN and FOX Sports. You can also catch replays quite easily as well. Since wrestling here in the states is mainly for highschool and college age athletes, you often have to go see them live. I don't know what it's like in Australia, but if your local highschool has a wrestling team, go check them out sometime. Those boys can always use one more local in the stand cheering them on. Finally, if there are boxing/mma gyms around you, pop your head in from time to time. A lot of times they'll be prepping for a small time promotion and you can get a flyer as to see when and where it will be. While the fighters might not be as crisp as the pros, the fights can be just as engaging and enjoyable to watch. Best of all, you'll be supporting your local economy by attending. Long story short, there's action everywhere. You just gotta look for it.
:O! AN AUSTRALIAN!? Haha, that's like calling you a Canadian or a Mexican. New Zealand is it's own country however it also has a total tosser for a Prime minister. Yeah I might throw up some old YouTube clips. With the timezones of America to New Zealand things like UFC are shown in the morning or early afternoon. I watch NFL but I need to take up at 5am on Monday to watch the early games. My high school had rugby, cricket and soccer and now field hockey, I couldn't imagine we'd have schools offering wrestling, probably have to find a club to go along. Would like to get my daughter into a sport, she's only 2 at the moment but she likes to practice taekwondo with my wife wearing her own gear. Used to watch Friday night fights on espn, but you can't really follow the career of someone that easily. But you're right, I need to find something to go out and watch. Take my mind off the awful Cleveland Indians at the moment My daughter with my wife practising
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Haha, I don't think you want another uneducated immigrant. My wife is a teacher, but I doubt her Chinese education means anything in your country. I work for an airline and do some stuff that makes me semi desirable, but the airline Industry is mimicking the fast food industry where if they can replace you with machines they will. The New Zealand economy is so shitty and will become more so with the introduction of the TPPA, so will probably go to Beijing since my wife owns an apartment there, however I can't speak Chinese with the exception of a few words and a couple of swear words. When I was there this year I watched a lot of sports. If we lived there I'd get one of those american expat cable services so I could hear English. Two months I spoke to two people besides my wife haha. Beijing was truly amazing. I assumed it would be anarchy but parts remind me of new york and where she is from is about a ten minute walk to Tiananmen square
Geez more stupid drama. I will say though that privatizing the subs is way more mature than just spamming bullshit. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
It would if they kept them that way for a week. Reddit is pretty much unusable right now.
I have practically NO defaults and a 1/3rd of my subs are on private. This is not some individual actors being pratty children, this is a fucking protest.
your short list is probably why. I think the vast majority of the blackout is on default subs, and if you keep a well-pruned sub list I don't imagine you have many (most of the better content being in smaller subs).
So far, we have not seen an uptick today. It really has a lot to do with having a high-visibility mention. We've not had one apparently. I enjoy it when we get an influx though, it's nice having new perspectives. Prior to her joining reddit, I had a number of conversations with Victoria. She's a very nice person, it's a shame they let her go. Their loss.
She, and anyone else are always welcome. Seriously, she's pretty kick ass. The kind of person that when you leave a conversation with, you always feel good about yourself and what you are working on. It is no surprise to me that she excelled at what she did there. She was always very complimentary of Hubski and seemed to understand what we were going for.
I'm here because of it. Voat reminds me of 4chan, and 4chan is. . . 4chan. Hubski seems like a much nicer alternative to either of them.
My feelings exactly. Voat got so many mentions in the FPH circles as "the new Reddit" that it's basically become hating fat people, the website. Not exactly a place I'd like to spend my time browsing. But I also heard of this place, and it seems rather pleasant - and pleasantly small - so here I am!
I agree with your assessment of voat. I tried it and it felt kind of like 4chan. Of course the fact that it was mentioned a lot during the FPH ban didn't help its image. Hell, reddit's started resembling 4chan in some parts for me. What sold me on Hubski though was its stance on personal content, on top of the general lack of hostility.
Welcome Blankstamped! If you have any questions about the site, feel free to PM me. Enjoy!
There was. I was getting new followers multiple times a day when reddit decided hating fat people is probably not nice. Voat is down right now so the horde seems to be jamming F5 at some kids in Switzerland. Hubski was slow earlier but seems fine now.
I feel so guilty coming here in the wake of that whole fat people hate debacle. I just happened to see a thread about reddit alternatives and thought the model here was neat! I didn't even know there was a large subreddit for hating fat people, or that it even got banned, before I saw that thread! I swear!
I'm not gonna go thread hunting again, but on one of the threads discussing what's going on, someone made a short list of reddit alternatives. Hubski was mentioned and the comment itself already had quite a few votes for only being a few hours old.
I scrubbed all my reddit info a year ago when the mods went full retard. I don't spend nearly as much time online as I used to, but most of that time is on the Chan boards. More open, more honest and frankly the people there, once you understand the culture, are friendlier than boards with "karma" like reddit and voat. I've not made a voat account yet and probably wont for a while, if ever. I like it here and I like the people here... even if I only post once a week or so.
ever tried Zen hubski for a similar but different "no karma" experience?
I'm a reddit user who migrated to snapzu. Snapzu is down from the exodus so I decided to check out hubski as well. So, hello everybody!
Hey pickle, if you have any questions about the site, let us know. I see snapzu mentioned sometimes. Glad you found a place you enjoy. I always say that I don't eat at just one restaurant, why would I visit just one aggregator? Variety is the spice of life! Welcome!
Exactly. I think the sort of "one site only" thing really has been a toxic part of online communities for the past few years. You are either a 4chan user, a reddit user, a tumblr user, or a 9gag user. I don't see why that has to be. Why can't we just be part of multiple communities? It works fine with forums. Why not content aggregation?
Welcome, try the fish, etc. If you can make it past 15 days, you'll probably work out.
I am one of the people who are majorly pushing the site right now (I posted the invite dump thread on /r/redditalternatives) and I am an active member/moderator. I really like the site and the only thing that is keeping me from using it as my primary site is activity. The only major drawback right now is that they haven't quite finished working out their moderation process quite yet so moderating is a little tricky. However, the admins are quite active, so if things go wrong, you aren't in too much trouble. Besides that, I absolutely love the site. I'd recommend anybody come and check it out and see if the community is right for you.
Ah I requested an invite code from them and am still waiting. I'm interested in seeing what it looks like. For now, hubski is getting a shot. Still figuring it out slowly but so far it isn't too bad. I like the discussion orientation build of it!
I mean, there's already two people in like 5 hours. SOUND THE ALARMS, CLOSE HATCHES, BRACE FOR IMPACT, REPORT TO IRC etc. Shitposting aside, the last influx wasn't too bad. There might be some sluicing needed, but it'll probably be worth it.
I knew that eventually, someone in reddit leadership would drop the ball. IAMA is a huge money maker for Reddit and every minute it's down, the more Reddit loses money. This is further compounded with the news that much of the site is shutting down. So the community is not happy. This could be it. In the days ahead we're going to hear a lot about Victoria's departure from a lot of sources. I will remind everyone to take the facts as they come with a grain of salt. I would be bold in saying this but I imagine Sam is meeting with the other investors about options at some C-level staff. To the Hubski staff: Where can we make donations again?
I used hubski for awhile before giving up on it due to a lack of mobile apps or a mobile page. Note that there's a mobile page I'm going to try it again. I think I'll be sticking around now.
Well, she wasn't the only admin everyone liked. Just one of the few and well known ones. That said, this sight could use more traffic. You don't notice how big reddit is until there are almost no blue links to sift through here on hubski.
Hi, I'm a newbie on Reddit and now on Hubski. I find the layout a tiny bit confusing and is there a desktop site? Also the banner kind of floats everywhere, getting in the way. Even when reddit normal service resumes, I'm going here as well, the discussions are great :)
The banner sits at the top. You can't get rid of it. It's kind of nice actually, as it lets you easily jump out of conversation threads without having to scroll all the way to the top or the bottom of the screen. When you get the chance, try messing around with your settings a bit. There are some nice little alterations you can make.
So, I've used reddit in some capacity for a long time now. Long enough that I don't use other websites for just recreation/web browsing. I vaguely remember what it was like to go to various different sources of online entertainment and, frankly, I think it would be equal parts sad and refreshing if reddit did go the way of digg. To be super honest, I'm on hubski because voat and and snapzu are down.